[He's silent. He can't quite bring himself to say that he feels it too, that Dirk is not the only one chafing every moment they have to go on letting the twelve inside be tortured. Who has feelings, am I right?]
I don't know what to say about me. I fucked up, and now we're on a rooftop. We'll save them anyway. Maybe Dave'll know to stay away from me now, I don't know.
[The last comment is more off-handed than the others, more of a slip of thought than what he meant to say. It isn't the focus of his mind but it's there, a nagging thought. Dave will see he's a raging douchebag. Dave will know not to get near him.]
Jay. [Dirk feels this is obvious? Come on, Jay.] I knew what would hit Karkat hardest and I went for it.
[In part, because it was his own feeling and he was projecting. In part because he believed it was true, and that that was why Karkat was being terrible. But damningly, in part simply because his intuition said it would make Karkat hurt, and Dirk wanted to hurt him.]
Yes, that . . . tends to happen when people are angry.
[And is also normal, is the very clear subtext here. He's just puzzled at this fundamental disconnect. There's clearly something he's not getting and he doesn't understand what that is?]
[It isn't sarcastic, which is why Dirk doesn't snap back. Instead, he tries to find a way to articulate it. It's surprisingly difficult, when he usually has words for basically everything.]
I hurt people without being angry at them or attacking them. I'm obnoxious and condescending, and I push my own desires about how people should be on them, and I make them feel like crap. Or I force them to fight unwinnable battles against stupid robots that look just like me in a twisted idea of courtship while claiming it's helpful training, which is definitely worse. That's a universal constant across every iteration of Dirk Strider that ever is or was: I'm a dick who hurts people and acts like I know what's best.
This is just that same toxic, horrible personality slipping out in a really obvious way. Anyone who already knows what I'm like would identify it instantly.
Dirk's response answers some questions, and raises new ones. But--for the most part; this doesn't really seem like the time to inquire about robots--they all boil down to one:]
. . . do you think I don't know you?
[He doesn't know everything about Dirk. That much is true. But he knows enough to know he doesn't recognize the person Dirk is describing.]
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Date: 2018-02-04 03:43 am (UTC)I shouted at someone for no real reason, so yeah. I'm not great.
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Date: 2018-02-04 03:50 am (UTC)[He cuts off, shaking his head a little.]
That's not the point. The point is, we could all have done a little more to de-escalate that situation.
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Date: 2018-02-04 03:53 am (UTC)[Still. That isn't really what's going on anyway.]
You'd think I'd be better at waiting after spending my entire life doing it.
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Date: 2018-02-04 04:05 am (UTC). . . we'll get them out. Soon.
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Date: 2018-02-04 04:12 am (UTC)I know I'm not the only one.
[He's just the one who lost his temper.]
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Date: 2018-02-04 04:18 am (UTC)It's--understandable, under the circumstances.
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Date: 2018-02-04 04:36 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2018-02-04 04:39 am (UTC)I am not! [ . . . ] I'm fine.
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Date: 2018-02-04 07:52 am (UTC)[HE'S JUST SAYING]
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Date: 2018-02-04 07:59 am (UTC)[Ugh, no, now that sounds like he's accusing Dirk. He slumps forward. He is so bad at this.]
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Date: 2018-02-04 08:17 am (UTC)I'm fine.
[It's an automatic statement, even though we've established that this is a terrible lie. He amends it to,]
. . . I'll be fine. I didn't come up here to talk about myself, you realize.
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Date: 2018-02-04 08:20 am (UTC)I don't know what to say about me. I fucked up, and now we're on a rooftop. We'll save them anyway. Maybe Dave'll know to stay away from me now, I don't know.
[The last comment is more off-handed than the others, more of a slip of thought than what he meant to say. It isn't the focus of his mind but it's there, a nagging thought. Dave will see he's a raging douchebag. Dave will know not to get near him.]
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Date: 2018-02-04 08:29 am (UTC)What?
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Date: 2018-02-04 08:32 am (UTC)It isn't really relevant. I merely meant that this is more by way of evidence that I'm not a great person to have around.
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Date: 2018-02-04 08:42 am (UTC)It isn't evidence of anything. What are you talking about?
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Date: 2018-02-04 08:46 am (UTC)[In part, because it was his own feeling and he was projecting. In part because he believed it was true, and that that was why Karkat was being terrible. But damningly, in part simply because his intuition said it would make Karkat hurt, and Dirk wanted to hurt him.]
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Date: 2018-02-04 08:54 am (UTC)[Slowly, like he's trying to figure something out. Namely, how that leads to the other thing.]
In my experience, that's fairly normal.
[He has done it himself and has never concluded this made him an inherently toxic person to be around??]</small.
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Date: 2018-02-04 08:57 am (UTC)[Not normal and not okay!]
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Date: 2018-02-04 09:01 am (UTC)[And is also normal, is the very clear subtext here. He's just puzzled at this fundamental disconnect. There's clearly something he's not getting and he doesn't understand what that is?]
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Date: 2018-02-04 09:12 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2018-02-04 09:16 am (UTC)[That's a genuine question. He has absolutely no idea what Dirk is talking about.]
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Date: 2018-02-04 09:21 am (UTC)I hurt people without being angry at them or attacking them. I'm obnoxious and condescending, and I push my own desires about how people should be on them, and I make them feel like crap. Or I force them to fight unwinnable battles against stupid robots that look just like me in a twisted idea of courtship while claiming it's helpful training, which is definitely worse. That's a universal constant across every iteration of Dirk Strider that ever is or was: I'm a dick who hurts people and acts like I know what's best.
This is just that same toxic, horrible personality slipping out in a really obvious way. Anyone who already knows what I'm like would identify it instantly.
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Date: 2018-02-04 04:53 pm (UTC)Dirk's response answers some questions, and raises new ones. But--for the most part; this doesn't really seem like the time to inquire about robots--they all boil down to one:]
. . . do you think I don't know you?
[He doesn't know everything about Dirk. That much is true. But he knows enough to know he doesn't recognize the person Dirk is describing.]
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Date: 2018-02-04 08:26 pm (UTC)I think you don't know the kind of bullshit I'm capable of because you've never seen it.
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